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« on: October 01, 2013, 05:35:13 PM »
The third season is my favourite one (not hard to distinguish  :D ). Not only because it's darker but also because of the continuous plot. All important questions are answered and everything leads to an concluding ending, when you arrange yourself with the adventurous idea of magic.

But also when the third season departs from the book, it got more spirit of the original novel than the first two seasons, in my opinion. Not least because of the frequently use of lapine (just sad that they used "sand" instead of "hraka").

Edit: Wrong forum  :doh Could someone move it  :unsure
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 05:47:26 PM »
Done. :)
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 06:35:39 PM »
Well said. Although I did hate the third season at first, it's now my favorite for the very reasons it was my least liked of the three, namely the supernatural elements. It is interesting that in departing from the book storyline it went back to the darker tone shown in the book. And there are no useless episodes like in season two(a.k.a Mysterious Visitors, The Invasion, and the two where they go to the 'big water'.) This is a definite improvement I think.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 01:53:51 PM »
Yeah!

- darker
- continuous story
- no filler

And I still say: The magic was mentioned already in season 2, so it's no creation for season 3 (and i'm still interested in how it could be when the story had continued after the second season in the old style).


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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 02:35:19 PM »
Precisely, so it was! Just not as obvious, and more...shall I say innocent? But it was definitely there.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 02:58:19 PM »
Oh yeah, season 3 was definitely the best. Though there were still some problems. Like the ending, was a real cop out. If they were going to have the black rabbit claim Woundwort, at the very least they could have had the Black Rabbit's Owsla drag Woundwort and the Darkhaven army into the Black rabbit's realm? That at least would have been pretty cool. And also, The Blackberry-Campion romance was kinda forced in some areas. I like the idea and I like how it was generally executed, but still. But there was no filler, the story was interesting, and it just did its own thing instead of blindly following the book. If only they could have got John Hurt back.
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 03:14:22 PM »
Well, I still think, the ending fits very good in the concept of the third season. And as far as I know, there where 65 episodes planned, so it's a wonder they created a real ending to the series instead of simple dropping it or produce a lame last episode.

And as I've written on my site: The surviving rabbits aren't a threat for Watership Down or the rest of the world. They where only blind followers of a mad chief. So there's no need for the Black Rabbit of Inlé to take them yet.

I think, the romance between Blackberry and Campion was solved well. It shows, that Campion must leave his personal feelings to lead Woundwort into the arms of the Black Rabbit of Inlé. It's the only way to save Watership Down and the rest of the animal world from his reign of madness.

But I agree, that John Hurt was definitly the better voice actor.


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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2013, 10:43:08 AM »
Shoot me, but honestly, I didn't even like the Campion subplot, and didn't really care much for the Campion/Blackberry plot, either.

While I enjoyed season 3 most, that was because of the reasons mentioned. But I felt like Campion's "Touched by Inle" nonsense really distracted from the more important things. Honestly, I felt like slapping him and saying, "Suck it up, and do your freakin' job! Stop acting like a two-month-old doe!"

It annoyed me.

As for the appearances of characters, I thoroughly enjoyed that Hazel and Fiver both looked more matured, as did a few others. I LOVED Strawberry's new design, since his old one was just so ugly(And he was obviously only included in the first two seasons as a walking "Don't be lazy" Aesop - another reason I liked s3! Strawberry was competent, had a nice design, and gained as a character).

There is, however, a design I'm NOT satisfied with. In fact, thismorning after waking up from a WsD Dream(Only fifteen minutes long D: Stupid waking up), I was thinking about her.

PRIMROSE.

I HATE her character, always have. She's whiny, self-centered, and manipulative in the first season. Rude as it is, thank GOD she became a housewife in the third. xD She grew up some. However, her design is the inverse - I LOVED her s1-2 design. It was quite pretty - managed to have a rabbit-like head shape while still looking rather delicate. It was just... Pretty. s3, not so much. I dunno why, I just don't like it as much.

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 12:29:48 PM »
You have been shot. Not really, you're free not to like it. I actually understand why you wouldn't.

You should see me sometimes. I swear every episode he goes on about it at least once. He's my favorite character(obvious much?) but that got annoying.

Yes, Strawberry was definitely better. He DID things!

Welcome to the club. Now there are at least three of us who hate Primrose. I agree, her design was better, but she was still really manipulative. In...uh...The Dark Deal, I think, she convinced Blackberry to sneak out of the warren without telling Hazel or anybody else, and they both almost got captured(Blackberry did, as you know), by Darkhaven. Other than that, she did improve a bit, I guess.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2013, 01:42:28 PM »
Quote from: Keeralie Starflight on Oct 5 2013, 08:29:48 AM
You have been shot. Not really
What do you mean with "not really"? Whose corpse have I then buried?  :blink

Primrose was definitely manipulative in the series. But she's neither a character I like nor one I hate. She's just... there. But I think, here role is good. We've got three adult female rabbits in Watership Down (I mean the warren, not the series):

Blackberry
Primrose
Clover

Blackberry is one of my favourite characters
Primrose is fortunately another type of character than Blackberry. That may be the reason she is like she is (and why so many don't like her)
Clover is not really a important character (fortunately!) in the series. But she's part of the World of Watership Down so she's in the series, too.


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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 02:12:57 PM »
While I understand why you want different types of characters, they could have at least based Primrose's personality off of Hyzenthlay's, since that's the role she was supposed to take on. That would have made her a great character, yet very distinguishable from Clover, Spartina, and Blackberry. I love, love LOVED Hyzenthlay in the movie and in the book. She was such a powerful character - why didn't they use her for inspiration for Primrose's personality? Stupid... You could tell from her first appearance she was NOT Hyzenthlay. Her yelling "NO" out loud was enough...
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 07:46:41 PM »
You buried my evil twin, Emerald(long story). Had to bury somebody, of course, and Emerald is expendable.

You don't have to hate her, or love her. I think Indi and I hate her for the same reason... The only person I've ever met who actually liked her character(that I know of!) is an eight year old who acts disturbingly like her.

Indi, you said it! If I didn't like Hyzenthlay so much, maybe I wouldn't hate Primrose... But maybe I would...
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2013, 08:29:24 PM »
Quote from: Keeralie Starflight on Oct 5 2013, 03:46:41 PM
You buried my evil twin, Emerald(long story). Had to bury somebody, of course, and Emerald is expendable.
And you're sure, she was the evil one  :blink


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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2013, 08:53:17 PM »
:angry NO! YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE WASN'T! I AM THE DARK ONE, AND MY DESTINY IS NOW TO KILL YOU!

I'm kidding, but now that I think of it, anyone else find Woundwort's destiny obsession annoying?
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2013, 09:57:21 PM »
Vervain certainly did find it annoying. ;)
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