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Re: Clover’s litter
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2020, 06:50:48 PM »
Although, in the wild, rabbits mate to have lots of kittens and to ensure that their warrens thrive, they don't 'fall in love' as humans do.  :)

Absolutely, this is the way how I think too.
The miniseries is an adaptation and I never want to get the exact same experience like the sorce material because if I want that I just read the book. Of course it's just my subjective opinion and I really don't like the line in the series when Clover said "I love you". However when Holly and Hyzen talked they made it much more... natural. I know Rabbits not like this but its first in an emotional motion picture for humans. I do like the way how they making time with the characters. Not perfect but I really wanted like the Epilogue scene with Fiver. Those not in the book but really good ideas (I think).
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Yeah, that line miffed me too! Seemed very 'Disneyified', I suppose. But of course I do appreciate that it is an adaptation and thus by its very nature it is somewhat adapted from the original source material. :)

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Oh I am glad to see it wasn't just me that felt the 'I love you' line was out of place!

The ending scene with Hazel and Fiver is one of the best in the miniseries and it gets me every time. Even just seeing gifs of the scene tears me up.

There have been some theories that the changes for the miniseries couples, was because James McAvoy and Anne-Marie Duff (Hazel and Hyzenthlay's voice actors) were married at the time the cast was announced, but divorced soon afterwards.  This is all speculation though.

I sincerely hope this isn't true because that would be rather unprofessional to say the least...
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Re: Clover’s litter
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2020, 04:56:26 AM »
I think they had kittens there is ten kits at Bluebell in the Epilogue, 3 from Bigwig-Strawberry, 2 from Blurbell-unnamed doe. The others probably from Hazel-Clover and might be Dandelion-Hyzen but it's just a theory. And interesting but I don't really see Hawkbit on the Epilogue shot. There is Fiver, might be Hawkbit but his fur is darker, Dandelion, Hyzenthlay, Bluebell, Bigwig, Strawberry, Clover, Blackberry, unnamed rabbit and Blackavar.
That seems rather unlikely, I think, considering how Dandelion (and Hawkbit) were still complaining about Strawberry's rejection shortly before.

Thanks for identifying all the rabbits in the image though; I probably would have had a lot of trouble figuring it out otherwise.

Bluebell's mate is probably this doe.

Haystack, perhaps?

Yeah, that line miffed me too! Seemed very 'Disneyified', I suppose.
It does feel too much like a Disney romance.  Also, if I remember correctly, that line was said soon after Clover found Hazel in the drain pipe?  That entire scene also rather annoys me (it should belong to Fiver instead).

The ending scene with Hazel and Fiver is one of the best in the miniseries and it gets me every time. Even just seeing gifs of the scene tears me up.
That scene was beautiful.  The way it is handled is better, I think, than in the film, or even the original book.
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Re: Clover’s litter
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2020, 09:52:07 AM »
That seems rather unlikely, I think, considering how Dandelion (and Hawkbit) were still complaining about Strawberry's rejection shortly before.

Oh, indeed you are right. I just thought because the time is longer between the rejection and the epilogue shot.

I think she is not Haystack. She's got yellowish fur and rounder body. With Bluebell is perhaps an Efrafan doe because of her rusty-redish coloured fur and more pointed head

It does feel too much like a Disney romance.  Also, if I remember correctly, that line was said soon after Clover found Hazel in the drain pipe?  That entire scene also rather annoys me (it should belong to Fiver instead).

I felt they really tring to build up and to me worked well, really, I like them and they placed that line in the second half of the fourth episode. They build this connection through two and a half episodes. Still that only line just not working. They would needed to just looking at each other and Hazel said "I know" or something. The viewer know exactly what they think and it would be as kind as Holly's speech.


It's still looks beautiful without any word.

That scene was beautiful.  The way it is handled is better, I think, than in the film, or even the original book.

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Re: Clover’s litter
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2020, 02:56:03 AM »
The McAvoy-Duff theory is interesting. However I think an animation is making for years and the script is written far earlier then the animators and voice actors doing their jobs. Probably they thought Hazel met Clover is better to develop connection between them like Holly-Hyzen. It was more understandable and I can accept that.
It's probably true that the script was written long before the voices were recorded.  Perhaps they made changes later on, but this would be a pretty big edit...

Oh, indeed you are right. I just thought because the time is longer between the rejection and the epilogue shot.

I think she is not Haystack. She's got yellowish fur and rounder body. With Bluebell is perhaps an Efrafan doe because of her rusty-redish coloured fur and more pointed head
That would make sense.  There were several Efrafan refugees who were never refered to by name.

That scene was beautiful.  The way it is handled is better, I think, than in the film, or even the original book.
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