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« on: February 14, 2014, 05:12:06 PM »
Let's come to one of my absolutely all-time favorites of the series: The Homecoming!

Yes, I really love this episode. It's the first time, when Watership Down and Efrafa collide. OK, there was the first episode if this season, but that was more a rescue mission for Pipkin. It may be the first time, I really feel remained to the movie. Take the fight between Woundwort and Bigwig.

And of course the scene, that burns into the brain: Campion's fate!

I mean, Fiver got his vision. But then, Campion met Blackberry and you think "Could he really be the one?".

On other sites, I heard the criticism, that it's unlogical that Campion and Blackberry fall in love from the very first sight. Maybe, but that wasn't different with Hazel and Primrose.

Of course, that is something, the writers could have done better, like many other things. But in it's whole entirety, the series is still one of my alltime-favorite (obvious  :p ) and this episode definitely does it's part for it!


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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 10:42:45 PM »
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On other sites, I heard the criticism, that it's unlogical that Campion and Blackberry fall in love from the very first sight. Maybe, but that wasn't different with Hazel and Primrose.

It's very logical, if you look at it from perspective of the producer:

"Hmm... How can we make Campion's death even more tragic...? I know! Let's make him fall in love with Blackberry and vice versa at the last moment, even though they haven't met each other before this episode. That way when he dies Blackberry will become unhappy and that will make the ending even more sad. I am a genius!"

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 10:47:14 PM »
Well, the "Fell in Love"-thing is generally a problem in the series. Hazel met Primrose as a prisoner in Efrafa and of course, the only thing they can think of is falling in love  :exactly

But on the other side, you must say: Letting Blackberry and Campion fall in love pushed the dramatic art of the season finale.


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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 11:14:55 PM »
That's undeniable. :)

In tv-series we have three couples who have this love-at-first-sight thing and three others who (from audience's point of view) become mates only after knowing each other for some time. So it is 50/50 in the series. :p
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2014, 06:37:48 PM »
You're right. Who ever thought, Bigwig will fall in love? :D


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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2014, 08:20:00 PM »
I think he was the one who was the most surprised that he did. :D
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2020, 04:35:11 PM »
This is more like it! What a development - Vervian finds the secret entrance and finally the story is moving along! There is even a sense of tension to ensure I kept watching and it really didn't seem to drag like some other episodes. Wow, even some violence and wounds shown! I guess the outcome has been a little ruined for me, knowing not quite is all it seems in the end as the final series will show, although how it comes to be is not yet known by me. But yes - a much improved ending and feels more in tone with the novel and film.  :fiver
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