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Author Topic: Scenes worth of of remembrance (books, tv-series, movie)  (Read 1284 times)

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Scenes worth of of remembrance (books, tv-series, movie)
« on: May 05, 2011, 08:29:51 PM »
The goal of this topic is to name the scenes from Watership Down Series that you think are worth to be remembered and to explain why we chose them. The second part of the goal is more important I think, because it can tell us more about the person mentioning that particular scene, than about the scene itself. ;)

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I will start with this little scene:

In the episode "Dark Deal" Woundwort, Cowslip, Silverweed and Vervain witness the destruction of Redstone. Just before that Vervain ask Woundwort: "Should we warn them? Give them a fighting chance? They are rabbits after all." After watching the whole event, he seems to be sad about it. I think it's an important scene, because it is one of these moments when Vervain show some good side to him. You can also see that even though he follows Woundwort, he is tired of General's obsession about his destiny and all.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2011, 06:54:23 PM by Myrkin »
"My heart has joined the thousand, for my friend stopped running today." - Hazel

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 06:59:47 PM »
Allright. I decided to change this topic, so everybody could put here scenes not only from tv-series, but also from other sources. I had realized that focusing on tv-series only was unreasonable, since not all has watched it and people would surely want to put scenes from books or movie.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 11:41:01 PM »
Myrkin, I haven't watched the movie or the series, so I'm limited. However I always enjoy those moments where characters have those life altering moments myself.

The most classic for me was watching Darth Vader find the good in himself to save his son from his master.

As far as WSD moments go, the saddest and most bittersweet moment for me occurs when Holly tells how the Sandleford Warren was destroyed by the humans. It was such a brutal graphic portrayal of what happened to their home and the title of the chapter "For El-ahrairah To Cry" was fitting. At the end of the story Holly says:

"You can imagine what it means to Bluebell  and me to find ourselves underground, among friends. It wasn't I who tried to arrest you Bigwig - that was another rabbit, long, long ago."

How sad.  It's also another one of those self-realization moments we were talking about, of how one was before events changed them.


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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2011, 08:08:36 AM »
Yes, it was a terribly sad moment, which was proved by rabbits' reaction to the story. I wonder if recollection of Sandleford's destruction would (over time) evolve into another story of El-ahrairah, like the adventures of Hazel & Co. did?
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2011, 10:15:12 AM »
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The scene where Woundwort threatens to kill Vervain if he harms Pipkin. It showed that the general actually did care for Pipkin and had a kind side.

When Campion saves Hazel from being killed by the snake, and covers for Hazel saying that it was him that Vervain saw him and not Hazel.

When Campion meets with Hazel, Bigwig and Fiver in the last episode of season one where he says that he will fight with them to the death and helps them get away, and is worried when Primrose tells him and the others that they will find Pipkin. This proved that Campion was loyaql to

The scene where Campion saves Bigwig up to the end of episode 26 (though I do hate watching the end of that episode). Campion's beytral to Woundwort was finally revealed.

In the very last episode of WSD when Bigwig challenges Woundwort in a fight and he is defeated. Vervain actually looks worried for Bigwig.

In The Wanderers when Vervain actually shows kidness to Aspen and says they'll be friends, and feels bad when the weasel kills him.

When Moss says that he doesn't want to kill Pipkin and says that he has a soft spot for him. This scene shows that some Efrafans other than Campion do have kinder sides.

In season 3 when Moss admits that he is going to finish what Campion started and try to overthrow Woundwort with any slaves who willl fight. It was just good to see Moss finally become Good.

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When Blackavar stayed behind in the honeycomb while the others tried to hide from Woundwort. This proved that he was loyal to all the rabbits in the warren, especially when he fearlessly charged at the General, even when he knew he would be killed.

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I'd have to think on these. I can't name any from memory.

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I'd have to think on these. I can't name any from memory.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 11:41:41 AM »
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When Blackavar stayed behind in the honeycomb while the others tried to hide from Woundwort. This proved that he was loyal to all the rabbits in the warren, especially when he fearlessly charged at the General, even when he knew he would be killed.

That's a peculiar scene in itself, and one I'm not sure all fans agree on.  Blackavar survives in the books, and were shocked to see him destroyed so easily in the film.  I don't think Woundwort even got a scratch from him.  A former Owsla member ought to have been a bit more skillful than that.

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 03:15:17 PM »
I meant that he was brave to stay behind even when he knew Woundwort could kill him, not his death. I did expect him to live until he stayed behind (before I knew it was a book).

I think he was killed so easily because they starved him, and beat him in Efrafa. If they hadn't, he would have put up a good fight probably.

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 11:09:05 PM »
In film, the most memorable scene for me is the "The council were merciful!" bit

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 04:26:32 PM »
Yes, I remember that scene. I remember how Chervil threatened Blackavar*, so the latter would explain to Bigwig his situation. I remember how Chervil nodded to what Blackavar said, like the teacher listening to student, who learned his lesson well. Then he threatened Blackavar, so he would repeat that last sentence: "The council were merciful!" This whole scene (and those afterwards) gave you a good idea what kind of the warren Efrafa is.


*He didn't do so in the book. They didn't interact with each other a lot, IIRC.
"My heart has joined the thousand, for my friend stopped running today." - Hazel

Pessimist sees a dark tunnel. Optimist sees a light in the tunnel. Realist sees the light of coming train. And the train driver sees three idiots standing on the track.